Bug: ELRS Backpack control on Lowband

[zandorsp]

To reproduce:

• Use a Expresslrs backpack flashed TX (used TX16S) ver 1.4.1 and goggles flashed with 1.4.1 too
• Select raceband and use the lua script to change the channels R1 to R8, and see work nicely, changing the channel on goggles and vtx at same time.
• Now select lowband on goggles and try the same on channels L1 to L8.... The vtx change the channel ok, but the goggles doesn't change.

Others functions of the backpack works nicely, like the DVR control.

[zandorsp]

One question: Why is necessary to have a menu with Raceband or Lowband for selection? Why not a Lowband on/off and select the channels L1-L8,R1-R8,F1,F2,F4,E1 freely ?

[ligenxxxx]

• Did you unlock lowband for your vtx?
• In fact, most people use raceband, and for them lowband is redundant.

[zandorsp]

• Did you unlock lowband for your vtx?
• In fact, most people use raceband, and for them lowband is redundant.

Yes, I unlocked lowband on vtx, and the vtx is working well on lowband, this affect only the Goggles and backpack

[pitts-mo]

Is there a technical issue that prevents both the normal channels and low band channels from being visible in menu at same time? It makes more sense to have them always visibly and just change the menu toggle to grey them out and skip over them when selecting/scanning.

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[zandorsp]

I think a lowband unlock on goggles option make sense... And if unlocked lowband and normal channels is selectable freely, If locked only channels R1-R8, E1, F1,F2 and F4 selectable.

[ligenxxxx]

Displaying all channels (20) at the same time will make the UI look very bloated, and I don't like complicated things. And scanning all channels at the same time will be more time-consuming than before. I did this first, but the experience was not good.

[pitts-mo]

Agree it sounds bloated, unneeded, and undesirable for most users. How about we try to support all channels at once, only display/select/search from one band at a time, default to display/search the band current channel exists in, move band toggle from sources page and add a hint for quick toggle/transition feature into the channels display page. Maybe? This way all channels feel more accessable for users and the ability to switch quickly will likely improve user education.. -p Just

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On Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 06:03 Ligen ***@***.***> wrote: Displaying all channels (20) at the same time will make the UI look very bloated, and I don't like complicated things. And scanning all channels at the same time will be more time-consuming than before. I did this first, but the experience was not good. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#378 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AFNT6YGXMYPGPPMNYK3R46DYF4UOTAVCNFSM6AAAAAA7TZKYHCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMYTQMRUGIZDSNRZGM> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[zandorsp]

I have a sugestion for the UI on scan now menu:

This band selection only affect the scan screen and on live view all 20 channels available on dial (L1-L8,R1-R8,E1,F1,F2,F4)

and add lowband unlock option

[lesharodin]

We started flying lowband more, when we have 8 pilots in the air.
Its so frustrating going to menu and change from race to low. Please make option so all freqs available in live view

[zandorsp]

We started flying lowband more, when we have 8 pilots in the air. Its so frustrating going to menu and change from race to low. Please make option so all freqs available in live view

+1

[zandorsp]

At least allow it to switch between Raceband and Lowband through the backpack command.

[Wikiwix]

@ligenxxxx Any news on this?
Supporting a switch between Lowband/Raceband via VTX Admin would not be bloat IMHO, but rather make the Goggles behave as expected, i.e. reacting to VTX Admin regardless of any on device settings.

(Since most racers (who need this quick switching) use VTX Admin, this will make the menu support much less important)

Context: Found this Thread preparing my Quads for European Champs (where Raceband and Lowband will be used concurrently).

[KidCe]

This is so important for EU Racers!

At Aircrasher events (e.g. FAI Worldcup Aichtal or MultiGP European Championship) Lowband is a necessity for ALL pilots to have Lowband accessable quickly. It can always happen that you get placed on a different channel shortly before the race.

UI Bloat is not a argument in my opinion, because most people i know cant even use google UI because of very bad Scroll wheel. Everyone uses ELRS Backpack for channel change and never thouch their goggle.

If you need to switch it to lowband via the UI, every one with Scrollwheel problems is at risk that they get placed on Lowband Channels and they will have to try for minutes to switch to lowband while all the other pilots have to wait.

ask me how i know.

Or worst case you get disqualified form that race because you cant switch in time.

Either Lowband needs to be added to google backpack switch, or a reliable Scroll wheel fix for everyone needs to be found.

[bob9]

#614 I added this PR yesterday that allows you to switch to and from low band via expresslrs backpack. I'll built it and test it and it works.