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frost(sdpa): has_lse specialization for the FP8/MXFP8 SM100 flavors - #574

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Affected area

FE OSS kernels or CuTeDSL

Summary

has_lse specialization for the FROST SM100 FP8 (per-tensor) and MXFP8 SDPA forward flavors — lse_optional parity with what #512 did for the f16 flavors.

  • Kernels (prefill_d128_fp8_sm100.py, prefill_d128_mxfp8_sm100.py): the LSE argument is Optional[cute.Tensor] end to end (_kernel/_host/correction-warp-group), the epilogue Stats store is guarded with cutlass.const_expr(lse_tensor is not None) (compiled out entirely when absent), and compile() grows has_lse: bool = True that builds a None fake LSE when False. The amax_s/amax_o atomicMax writes are independent of the LSE and unchanged.
  • Adapter (api_dsl.py): SdpaFwdDslSm100.compile() keys has_lse on sample_lse for the FP8/MXFP8 branch; execute() drops the cached dense dummy-LSE fallback (a stats-less compile binds None), and the strict lse_tensor presence contract now applies to FP8 too (both directions — a requested LSE must be bound, an unrequested one is rejected). _execute_fp8/_execute_mxfp8 pass None through.
  • Engine specs (engines.py): _sm100_fp8_spec / _sm100_mxfp8_spec flip lse_optional=True. Every lower_dsl_prefill row is now lse_optional, so the engine-level dummy-LSE carve (dummy_lse_bytes sizing + the carver.take in _execute) is dead and removed. The SM80 row keeps the False default but lowers through lower_sm80_prefill, which never read the flag.

Why

Stats-less FP8/MXFP8 inference graphs go to zero workspace like f16 (get_workspace_size() == 0 — no dummy buffer at any level), one fewer GMEM write per tile, and the strict lse_tensor execute contract becomes uniform across all SM100/SM120 flavors.

Related issues

Fixes #523

API and compatibility impact

Stats-less dense FP8/MXFP8 FROST graphs now report get_workspace_size() == 0 (previously b*h_q*s_q*4 bytes of engine-carved dummy). Passing an lse_tensor to an FP8 SdpaFwdDslSm100 compiled without sample_lse now raises ValueError (previously silently accepted via the dummy path) — same contract the f16 flavors adopted in #512. Graphs with a Stats output are unchanged.

Testing

On a cc 10.0 (SM100) GPU:

  • pytest test_sdpa_fwd_fp8_sm100.py test_sdpa_fwd_mxfp8_sm100.py -q -m "L0 or L1"55 passed, including new stats-less zero-workspace tests for both flavors (generate_stats=False, asserts get_workspace_size() == 0, checks O and the in-kernel amaxes against the fp32 reference) and a new fp8 execute lse-contract test mirroring the f16 one.
  • pytest test_sdpa_graph_analyzer.py -q78 passed.
  • pytest test_sdpa_fwd_dsl_sm100.py -q -k "graph_api"12 passed (f16 sanity slice over the shared lowering).

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  • New Features

    • Added support for running SM100 FP8 and MXFP8 attention without LSE statistics output.
    • LSE output is now optional and is only generated when requested.
    • Statistics-free execution preserves output scaling updates and requires no dummy LSE workspace.
  • Bug Fixes

    • Corrected LSE binding validation for configurations with and without statistics output.
    • Reduced workspace requirements for statistics-free execution.
  • Tests

    • Added coverage for statistics-free FP8 and MXFP8 execution, output accuracy, workspace usage, and LSE binding behavior.

Follow-up to NVIDIA#512 (f16 flavors): the SM100 FP8/MXFP8 forward kernels now
None-specialize their LSE argument. compile() grows has_lse (True default);
has_lse=False builds a None fake-LSE and the epilogue guards the Stats store
with cutlass.const_expr(lse_tensor is not None), compiling it out entirely —
the amax_s/amax_o atomicMax writes are independent and unchanged.

Adapter + engine plumbing:
- SdpaFwdDslSm100.compile() keys has_lse on sample_lse for the fp8/mxfp8
  branch; execute() drops the cached dense dummy-LSE fallback and applies the
  strict lse_tensor presence contract (both directions) to fp8 too;
  _execute_fp8/_execute_mxfp8 pass lse=None through to the kernel.
- engines.py: _sm100_fp8_spec/_sm100_mxfp8_spec flip lse_optional=True. Every
  lower_dsl_prefill row is now lse_optional, so the engine-level dummy-LSE
  carve (dummy_lse_bytes + the carver.take in _execute) is dead and removed.
  The SM80 row keeps the False default but lowers through lower_sm80_prefill,
  which never read the flag.

Payoff: stats-less FP8/MXFP8 inference graphs report get_workspace_size()==0
like f16, one fewer GMEM write per tile, and the strict lse execute contract
is uniform across all flavors.

Tests (SM100, cc 10.0):
- test_sdpa_fwd_{fp8,mxfp8}_sm100.py: new stats-less zero-workspace tests
  (generate_stats=False, workspace==0, O/amax vs ref) and an fp8 execute
  lse-contract test mirroring the f16 one; 55 passed (-m "L0 or L1").
- test_sdpa_graph_analyzer.py: 78 passed.
- test_sdpa_fwd_dsl_sm100.py -k graph_api: 12 passed.

Fixes NVIDIA#523

Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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SM100 FP8 and MXFP8 SDPA now support optional LSE output. Stats-less graphs compile out LSE stores, use no dummy-LSE workspace, enforce LSE binding contracts, and retain Amax updates. Tests cover zero-workspace execution and API validation.

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SM100 optional LSE support

Layer / File(s) Summary
Kernel LSE specialization
python/cudnn/sdpa/fwd/kernels/prefill_d128_*fp8_sm100.py
FP8 and MXFP8 kernels accept optional LSE tensors. LSE stores and fake LSE allocation are conditional. Amax updates remain active without LSE.
Engine and API workspace wiring
python/cudnn/sdpa/fwd/engines.py, python/cudnn/sdpa/fwd/api_dsl.py, python/cudnn/frost/README.md
SM100 engines enable optional LSE. API compilation derives has_lse, enforces LSE binding, passes None when statistics are absent, and removes dummy-LSE workspace accounting.
No-statistics validation
test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fwd_*_sm100.py
Tests cover stats-less FP8 and MXFP8 execution, zero workspace, output and Amax values, and LSE binding contracts.

Estimated code review effort: 4 (Complex) | ~45 minutes

Mergeability Score: ⚪ Minimal · up to a3e03

The PR enables stats-less FP8/MXFP8 execution without an LSE buffer while preserving LSE-backed behavior; the only remaining merge-readiness issue is two test-only output variables that violate repository naming rules, which is localized and straightforward to correct.

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sequenceDiagram
  participant Graph as SDPA graph
  participant API as SM100 SDPA API
  participant Engine as SM100 engine
  participant Kernel as FP8 or MXFP8 kernel
  Graph->>API: Declare statistics output or omit it
  API->>Engine: Compile with has_lse
  Engine->>Kernel: Launch with LSE tensor or None
  Kernel->>Kernel: Store LSE only when present
  Kernel->>Kernel: Update Amax independently
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Suggested labels: cat-feature, orig-nv-eng, mod-cutedsl, mod-frost

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Title check ✅ Passed The title clearly identifies the main change: has_lse specialization for FP8 and MXFP8 SM100 SDPA flavors.
Description check ✅ Passed The description covers all template sections and provides the change, rationale, compatibility impact, related issue, and test results.
Linked Issues check ✅ Passed The implementation addresses all coding objectives in issue #523, including optional LSE, zero workspace, preserved amax writes, and strict binding.
Out of Scope Changes check ✅ Passed The kernel, adapter, engine, documentation, and test changes are directly related to issue #523 and the stated PR objectives.
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In `@test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fwd_fp8_sm100.py`:
- Line 268: Rename the output variable O to output at both affected sites:
test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fwd_fp8_sm100.py lines 268-268 and
test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fwd_mxfp8_sm100.py lines 220-220. Update all
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  • python/cudnn/frost/README.md
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  • python/cudnn/sdpa/fwd/kernels/prefill_d128_fp8_sm100.py
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``get_workspace_size() == 0`` (asserted inside ``_run``). The Amax_S /
Amax_O atomicMax writes are independent of the LSE and still produced."""
scale = 1.0 / math.sqrt(128)
O, O_ref, a_s, a_s_ref, a_o, a_o_ref = _run(2, 8, 8, 256, 256, in_key, torch.float16, scale=scale, sdpa_kwargs=dict(use_causal_mask=True), stats=False)

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📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick win

Rename the single-letter output variables. Ruff reports E741 for both new O variables.

  • test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fwd_fp8_sm100.py#L268-L268: rename O to output.
  • test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fwd_mxfp8_sm100.py#L220-L220: rename O to output.
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[error] 268-268: Ambiguous variable name: O

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  • test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fwd_fp8_sm100.py#L268-L268 (this comment)
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In `@test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fwd_fp8_sm100.py` at line 268, Rename the
output variable O to output at both affected sites:
test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fwd_fp8_sm100.py lines 268-268 and
test/python/sdpa/frost/test_sdpa_fwd_mxfp8_sm100.py lines 220-220. Update all
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…ard (#579)

Two follow-ups to #576:

1. #574 (has_lse specialization for the FP8/MXFP8 SM100 flavors) merged
   between #577 and #576, so the shared adapter now passes has_lse to the
   fp8 compile() while the SM107 sibling still had the pre-#574 signature -
   a TypeError on any Rubin fp8 compile at develop tip. This ports #574's
   fp8-kernel hunks onto the sibling verbatim (LSE None-specialization,
   compile(has_lse), the specialized epilogue), restoring signature parity
   with the shared call site.

2. Responding to review on #576: the 9-stage ring with BF16/FP16 O
   (~242 KiB) exceeds the STANDARD sm_10x 227 KiB per-CTA opt-in and is
   legal on GR100 only through the sm107 oversized-SMEM launch mode
   (function attribute 16), which the required internal cutlass-dsl
   toolchain enables for its sm_107a kernels - board-validated e4m3->bf16
   across the full suite. Rather than rejecting output dtypes that
   demonstrably work on the target stack, a static import-time guard now
   accounts the geometry against the GR100 hardware budget so a future
   stage/width bump fails with a clear message instead of at launch.

Validated: SM100 box 34 passed; SM107 board 34 passed (full fp8 e2e suite
through the sibling, has_lse and no-lse populations both exercised via the
suite's generate_stats matrix).

Co-authored-by: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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